BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE.

Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-08-01

BEFORE YOU START ON ANY AGENDAS, WORKS, PLANS, PRODUCTS.

isipin nyo muna..

asan na ang GOAL ng forum na to?
hindi ito PESOS kung hindi ito tungkol sa EMO SCENE (ROCK MUSIC)
this is not a forum where you can just chat

"ano kinain mo kanina, kakairin mo ba ung poster sa taas mo, ano masasabi mo sa ungas sa baba ng post mo, cno single dito gusto ko ng perfect gf/bf"

hindi ganyan dapat..

ASAN NA?
ASAN NA?

nawala na ang OFFICIAL FORUM,
binitawan ko dahil ASAN NA?

nagun may bago na.. and everybody expects na THIS WILL BE BETTER.,

PERO ASAN NA?

DI PA BA NAG SASAWA?

AGENDA? PLANS?

come on guys, wag kayo puro plano at writeups lang..
and maniningil ng pera pero wala namn malalabas na result.

asan na a yan ID na yan?

hindi ba naningil na ng pera jan? at andaming dahilan kesho na ospital sha, kesho naiwanan, kesho ganito ganyan

hindi pa ba kayo nag sasawa?

TO MAKE AN ID:

you need a layoud.. preferably about 3inches width to 2.5height

you need a good graphic designer

you need a PVC ID printing machine
(mapapamahal ka sa labas)

the machine will cost around 6-7k ..
with 10 sheets i think. so each sheets will cost less 20pesos lang.

so.. the problem is.. WAG KAYONG MANINGIL. ng walang mapapala.

DAPAT MAY MAG PRISINTA. unang gumawa ng akshon ng walang hawak o paniningil.. ABONOHAN in short.
saka ibenta

ASAN NA YANG ID NA YAN MR. PAWS
and MS. BARBIE

plus: you cannot issue an OFFICIAL RECEIPT if hindi registered sa BIR
and kung counter receipt lang yan.. still it is invalid. d mo pwde i habol o kasuhan
(kakasuhan mo pa ba ung 50pesos?)

tawag eh.. DELICADESA. sana naman may HIYA naman .

(ayoko na ng arguement gusto ko lang malaman ng lahat ang mga hinding magandang nangyayari)

SHIRT:
eto may progress.. kay archie. (tama ba ? nakalimot ko na name)

sana naman.. matuto naman tau..

tama na ung kaka paty kaka inom kaka karir kaka tambay
ng walang napapala.

please lang. ayusin nyo

Posts : 103 Join date : 2009-07-24 Age : 31

Nakita ko yung layout ng I.D nung last last last year pa sa QC circle.Yung layout na na i print ni kuya paws yung ginawa ni chico nung 2007 pa (yung may logo ng pesos V2).Pero wala na ako balita dun kasi hindi na ako maghahabol sa 50 pesos ko (kasi nga nagkasakit si kuya paws kaya yun alam ko na kung san manggagaling ang pinang bayad namin.

Ano ba description ng forum na to? kaya nga sabi ko kay Tisha para san pa ba to? alam ko hindi na to sisikat pa na magkakaroon ng 20k members sa friendster group, with 1.5k members sa forum at sabihin natin atleast 80 persons ang active sa mini eb/geb.Kapag natupad ulit yun sasali ako ng org dito sa UE para sa prayer meeting everyday.

MISSION and VISION of PESOS University

ano kaya maganda ilagay? kabisaduhan natin para pumasa tayo sa CHED hahaha!

And para sa future plan nyo sa PESOS, wag po kayo mag decide sa mga mahihirap na bagay at wala naman mapapakitang katibayan upang mapaniwala nyo ang mga members dito.Focus muna kayo sa mga nagawa na ng iba like PESOS geb, PESOS tshirt,PESOS regular gig/s.

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:17 pm

Hmmm, thanks for the advice Chico, but we need reliable members to carry out our plans. Hindi kasi mailagay sa ayos ang PESOS dahil walang maayos na org chart. We need active people to at least ensure this group is kept alive.

Sabog po kasi, hindi natin alam kung sino ang leaders ng mga chapters, hindi natin alam kung sino ang mag-hahandle ng ano, etc.

Yung ibang sasabihin ko sa PESOS forum meeting topic na po. Smile

@Gerson: Yes, i think we need to fix things like regular EBs and Stuff. But we also need something else to make our group different from the other groups.

Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-31

still thinking about EBs huh?

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:28 pm

EBs? Of course, it's an essential part of the group. How else are we gonna talk personally about the group if we can't see each other?

Oh please Mr. ~ if you have nothing substantial to say then please just lurk. ^^

Or better yet you can help us with your ideas. AND I know you have a lot of them.

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:50 pm

We are actually starting to work with it na.
All suggestions are highly appreciated and will be gladly entertained.
Busy pa daw si Tish ngaun sa midterms nea kaya she can't make her move pa.
Nainform ko na din sila Barbie and kuya Paws regarding this.
Thanks for your consideration guys. Smile

Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-31

and i quote:

Michico wrote:: tama na ung kaka paty kaka inom kaka karir kaka tambay
ng walang napapala.

there is more to this than just EBs. either that, or you dont deserve the title you've bestowed upon yourselves. wise up like this michico guy here.

Administrator Posts : 149 Join date : 2009-07-11 Age : 33

ayun ..
pasensya kung ngayon ko lang masasagot lahat ng tanong mo chico ..

agenda ?
wala akong agenda .. wala din akong balak pagperahan lahat ng gngawa ko ..
GINAWA KA 'TONG SITE PARA MAWALA UNG GAP BETWEEN SUN CHAP AND GLOBE CHAP AND KUNG SINO PANG MEMBERS ..
yun lang talaga ung nasa isip ko kaya ko ginawa 'tong site ..
i don't need other people's money .,
AND WAG MO KO ITULAD SA MGA SINASABI MO NA PURO MANININGIL NG PERA ..
KASI HINDI KO GAWAIN YUN ..

ID ?
haha .. wala akong alam dyan .. don't ask me .. ask THEM .. kasi ever since , wala akong alam dyan .. ayun ..

PARTY ?
out ako sa mga ginyan .. they have their own lives .. hayaan mo na silang mag party ..

and one more thing ..
NO ONE EXPECTED THAT THIS SITE WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'VE DONE CHICO ,.

NASABI KO NA SIDE KO ..
YUN LANG ..

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:14 am

pwede ba guyz tumigil na keo sa kakaturo-turo nyo kung sino
my kasalan...kung na kanino yong pera or whatsoever...
alam nyo ba..wala na lang ginawa yon iba dito kundi ang manisi ng
ibang tao dahil sa kapalpakan na nangyari sa mga dating plans
ng PESOS....so???...walang projects kayong nakikita???..
let me reiterate ah ang alam ko may 5 agendas ang group dati...
1. ID -to identify na PESOS ka...
2. OUTREACH PROGRAMS para naman makilala tayo na
my silbi at hindi puro lang party as per CHICO da great...
3. PRODUCTION which as you can still going strong pa rin
4. EBs which is also doing great at mas lalo pa tumitibay yon samahan
ng mga members bago man o luma....
5. HQ para may venue tayo after eb...

sa tingin nyo ano ba sa mga yan ang di nasunod???
just da ID right???...so qng yong pera man ang
inaano mo chico gusmo mo isampal ko pa sa mukha mo yon
1.5 na nalikom namin...kulang pa nga pamasahe namin sa mga yan
para lang puntahan at mgreach out sa ibng chapter na malalayo....

to be continued need q restart un pc...XD

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:29 pm

LOL almost 1year na aku d2. aus naman ang pesos dayi ah... one thing na di maaus eh ung di nagkakaintindihan bawat isa dun sa id may nagsabi sakin kung wat happen. naiintindihan ko un. besides ala pa naman 100 ung binigay ng bawat isa ah... money is always there .. pede mu kitain yun any time right.

this is not just a group for me I really love pesos. parang family ko na tlga to ever since. kaya nga gumawa ng new site para magkaisa lahat ng members iiihh...

aun nag comment lang. Smile

Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-08-01

FYI: barbie,

i really do not .. again.. DO NOT. need your friggin money. ( na galing sa members )

the point here is, hindi ung pera .. kundi ung reputasyon..

o tiwala nalang.

nagbigay ung mga tao ng pera para sa id. expecting na ma proproduce na.

pamasahe? you told them na.. paws is the one who's in charge, priprint nya using his home printer. (i wonder anong quality yon)

1,5 to reach out other chapters,
hell... you have eb's you dont need to get trough them.
kung alam nyong ma shoshort eh bat naningil pa kayo? hindi ba dapat before you do a project,. eh planuhin muna.. magkano real expenses at mga ppntahan at gagamitin..

simply is.. ginastos talga..
well i dont need the money.. i can give you one.. even double.. triple. o quadruple .

pero the TRUST? nah uh... it's gone..

reputation? im sorry pero it's broken.

family? group? organization?

ano bang na establish ng grupong ito?
hindi ba ang goal namn nito eh ang pagpakalat ng real EMO TALKS, and INFORMATIONS about it.

reach out programs? donations?
para san? sa mga nag lalayas? na members na na BI.

Production: yes meron nyan.. pero last production nyo na pinuntahan ko eh.. kapwa ka PESOS. tinatakas ung pera.. kesho d daw masaya kaya i rerefund? .. the hell.. asan ang FRIENDSHIP at FAMILY don? .. pera pera parin.

EB: tumitibay ang samahan?... since last year nag eeb na.. 1st eb, 2nd eb (kung san andon ako)
and sa sumunod..

asan na ung mga dating nasa EB? kung pampatibay pala? hindi ba unti unting umonte?

HQ: nah... alam ko na yan laos na yan.. tambayan for short. o lugar pang inuman .. o lugar ng taong nag lalayas.

tskkk...
please do something productive.

wag puro talks.. please do it in action.

kung makikita ko kayo sa bantay 163 .. o sa mga feeding programs.. un ang CHARITY work..

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:48 pm

I'm here to read.

Nasa cebu ako nang naganap mga pangyayaring to.

So hindi ako makikisawsaw.

Just a little advice.

Be grateful that everyone is being straight forward about pointing out our mistakes.
Kasi we can all learn from it. Wag kayong magagalit, o magturuan for that matter.

If puro init ng ulo paiiralin ninyo, I won't be surprised if mabuwag ang group/clan na ito.

We have to learn to appreciate what everybody did.

Quote :: Focus muna kayo sa mga nagawa na ng iba like PESOS geb, PESOS tshirt,PESOS regular gig/s.

Sa mga nababasa ko, meron pa tayong prob dito sa mga to (except sa shirt). Meron nagrereklamo sa mga gig, sa mga EB. Pero hindi naman po ata maiiwasan yung mga ganun hindi ba? >_<

Wag kayong magagalit sa isa't isa.. all we have to do is give these people a chance to prove na kaya nila baguhin ang sistema nila.

Posts : 90 Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : q.c. <33

i hope this is not just the "id" issue. Exclamation

well all the things that happened before
either good or bad, great or humiliating,
it doesn't matter now. at siguro
may natutunan naman tayo lahat dun di ba?
what is important is the NOW .
as what everyone wants, ACTIONS .
na sino ba naman ang ayaw? (kaw ba?)
kaya nga siguro bumalik toh eh,
i know its not really the money, ayt guys?
kahit papano may 'pinagsamahan' na din naman,
kahit na di lahat ng pinagsamahan eh ganun
kaganda.

i guess, like everyone .. we need to MATURE.
lets not cry over spilled milk , and puhleeeaassee stop
pointing our fingers to each other,
though critics could make us healthy. but too
much of it could be really bad.

as for HIM, karapatan niya naman
sabihin lahat yun eh . ( for all we know HE has been a great
man HERE. would you object? )
what i mean is maybe he really have goooood intentions kaya
niya nasabe yun, lets just think of the other side. Smile

tama na palitan ng salita, ok?
mejo mahiya naman tayo sa makakabasa.
( rereact ka? )

ganito, lets not make any promise.
lets just do what we can do,
i think kung may mangyayari naman
malalaman di nila yun, being successfull might
be a good revenge ( ok just remove the word revenge
would that be ok? . XD )

ok. chill na.
if you have any other things to said
then go! .

as for me, im outta here.

-----
v

Posts : 664 Join date : 2009-07-11 Age : 31

i have nothing to say na.
words already speaks fer themselves.

still.
Lahat yan nadadaan sa maayos na usapan.
wag na lang kayo magsisihan.
pagusapan kung ano dapat baguhin.

wag magpakamatay kapag di naayos.
TRALALALALA. Razz

btw, Welcome back koya Chico.
I miss ya! Smile

Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-08-01

well said,

well thats it for now.. forget the past and learn from it.

pero before you continue. .dapat extra effort .. extra ingat mga bagay.

bago mabilib at mag approve ng isang "agenda" o goal eh.. pag isipan muna kung ano talga mapapala don..
reliable ba ung tao? , kung may money involve eh. sapat ba?

hmm.. note:
wala akong pinopoint out... na parang sinisisi ko sha .. its just dapat ma remind ang tao.. at malaman ng tao kung ano ung HINDI MAGANDANG nangyari..

usto nyo pa bang mag salita ang ibang members about the past? baka lalo maipit yang mga yan...

tama na to. baka umiyak na yon :]]

even me .. nagkakamali rin ako.. nagkaroon din ng mga bagay na nakakahiya na ginawa ko..
oo may mga naging gf rin ako sa PESOS, pero after the last one.. (c ... ano..) eh medyo na hiya hiya na ko sa sarili ko.

lahat tayo ay may kanya kanyang baho.. pero dapat eh malaman rin ng tao ang baho mo.. para maiwasan ka at maisip mong mag deodorant .

thats life, kelangan mapa realize sayo kung ano mali mo.. saka ka matututo.

kayo ba? (alam nyo kung sino kyo)
kelan kayo matututo?

kelan nyo titigilan na maningil ng pera kesho ganito ganyan?

kelan nyo titigilan ang pag lalasing at bechin ng isang member pag inuman? (nakakatuwa daw pero kabastusan)

kelan nyo titigilan makigamit ng kwarto ng may kwarto at walang respetong ggwin nyong motel?

kelan nyo titigilan pilitin ang isang tao na wag muna umuwi at kesho mag dadahilan nalang? para makapag extend sa inuman?

kelan nyo titigilan ang mangutang at mang hiram ng gamit (kagaya ng mp3 ko) na hindi na binabalik o binabayaran? taon na ang lumipas?

kelan nyo titigilan gamitin ang grupo para maging gang at mang bugbog ng kapwa member o ibang grup? (d nyo ba kaya mag isa?)

kelan kayo matututong mag paka sinop naman kung makiki stay sa ibang bahay (kahit inuman) .. na mag pakitang respeto na wag babuyin ang bahay nila at magpaka asal na BISITA ka, at hindi mo bahay yon?

andami diba?
ikaw? KELAN?

-im such a makata lol

Posts : 90 Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : q.c. <33

next chapter. pls?
kiddin. Very Happy

lets just see what will happen next.
dont rush on things.

habang buhay may pag-asa.

we all have skeleton to hide,
and when the time all of it shall expose we must
be ready for the consequence. and of course,
learn from the lessons it gives.

we all have problems to handle, its fine to
commit mistakes .. with that you'll know uve been wrong.
we are not perfect, are we?

surely, its good to have wake up call from time to
time baka kasi nahihimbing na masyado
ang mga kamalayan da ba?. Smile

pero sana wag to the point na
para na tayong si PONTIO PILATO kung
maghugas ng kamay, tapos saka ituturo sa kung sinong
pinaniniwalaan nating may kasalanan.

tss .
oh well pardon my language. boredom talks.

i really should be outta here and shut
my mouth up.
you might as well do the same.

nyt guys.
---
v

Posts : 45 Join date : 2009-08-16

whatever dude.

Laughing

masya na mga tao dto.
if you really have a plan to make this group better, just do it.
ndi yung kung anu ano pa sinasabe mo.
i've heard that many many times..
wla ding nangyayare.

clown

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:09 pm

welcome back chico!
i'm glad you're here!

let me clear my name...
unang-una yung sa ID...
my nagawa na akong mga
ID nung last year pa...
hindi ko lang naipamigay kasi
bumalik ako ng batangas
cause of a serious illness...
hindi ko naman ginusto na mawala
sa manila...

sa issue na pineperahan ko
yung mga members...
bakit ko naman gagawin yun?
hindi naman ako pulubi...
sisirain ko ang pangalan ko sa
halagang 30php?
pang tapsi lang yun!
hahaha!
my work ako nung panahong
nasa manila ako...
kaya di ko yun kailangan!

alam ko malaki yung atraso ko
sa mga members...
pero tinakakbuhan ko ba sila?
i'm still here attending EB's...
maraming makakapagpatunay nian.

at lastly magpapasalamat ako
sa mga taong patuloy na nandito
at sumusuporta sa group...
kung my mga tanong kau tungkol sa
mga issues na to itxt nio lang ako...
09165904424...
pwede taung magset ng EB pra pagusapan
to ng maayos...

[paws]

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:28 pm

oooops! wag na kayo magsisihan.
nag sorry na e.paki intindi nalang.

if we still have the fund for that ID edi good!
ituloy ang project.your just making big issues.

tsaka about that printer thing.we dont have to buy
machines.we have lots of rich members here right?
dun nalang kayo hiram ng machine but you provide
materials needed.edi tapos!!

why not make moves rather than blaming mistakes
& why not just take steps rather than ranting.

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:11 pm

LOL no comment LOVE KO KAYU LAHAT...

may nabasa lang aku sa bandang taas... LOL...

past is past men.
lol!

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:22 pm

eto, ganto nalang. since narinig na naman natin ang side nilang lahat, I GUESS IT'S time for us to start anew? hindi ba?

Michico wrote:: kelan nyo titigilan na maningil ng pera kesho ganito ganyan?

kelan nyo titigilan ang pag lalasing at bechin ng isang member pag inuman? (nakakatuwa daw pero kabastusan)

kelan nyo titigilan makigamit ng kwarto ng may kwarto at walang respetong ggwin nyong motel?

kelan nyo titigilan pilitin ang isang tao na wag muna umuwi at kesho mag dadahilan nalang? para makapag extend sa inuman?

kelan nyo titigilan ang mangutang at mang hiram ng gamit (kagaya ng mp3 ko) na hindi na binabalik o binabayaran? taon na ang lumipas?

kelan nyo titigilan gamitin ang grupo para maging gang at mang bugbog ng kapwa member o ibang grup? (d nyo ba kaya mag isa?)

kelan kayo matututong mag paka sinop naman kung makiki stay sa ibang bahay (kahit inuman) .. na mag pakitang respeto na wag babuyin ang bahay nila at magpaka asal na BISITA ka, at hindi mo bahay yon?

hmm, hindi ko pa nararanasan na makasama sa mga EB na may ganyan. pero sa dami ng mga members, hindi na natin malalaman kung sino sino yung mga gumagawa niyan. Oh well. let's just hope they were able to read this.

isa lang naman ang goal natin lahat eh. yun ay mapabuti ang grupo.

hindi ba?

since narinig na natin side nila kuya chico, ate barbie at kuya paws regarding the ID issue, i guess we have to put that aside and focus on starting over. kung may mga nawalang trust, let's just work hard to regain it.

We all had our fair share of mistakes, and EVERY GROUP HAS ITS FLAWS.

hindi mawawala yan. but let's not linger on it. please. ^^

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:26 pm

Chico, we've been total opposites on our own own point of view most of the time, pero i think i will have to agree with that,
anyways, tungkol sa iD, i'll be giving 10 members an ID copy, Chico's Design, don't worry, hindi ko kayo pi2litin magbayad, and i more thing, for your convenience guys, ako na pu2nta sa house nyo,

i'll just try to help out nalang regarding this matter, kase, i knew that this Matter will be brought out even before, so i'll try to help out as much as i can.

i've decided to go for Chico's design of the iD, and don't worry with the papers in BIR, i'll try my best to fix that for you guys.

if you have any questions, clarifications, violent reactions, or whatever, feel free to drop me a message in my Journal or PAW'S Journal regarding these matters.

~Cryz

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 pm

Cryzler wrote:: Chico, we've been total opposites on our own own point of view most of the time, pero i think i will have to agree with that,
anyways, tungkol sa iD, i'll be giving 10 members an ID copy, Chico's Design, don't worry, hindi ko kayo pi2litin magbayad, and i more thing, for your convenience guys, ako na pu2nta sa house nyo,

i'll just try to help out nalang regarding this matter, kase, i knew that this Matter will be brought out even before, so i'll try to help out as much as i can.

i've decided to go for Chico's design of the iD, and don't worry with the papers in BIR, i'll try my best to fix that for you guys.

if you have any questions, clarifications, violent reactions, or whatever, feel free to drop me a message in my Journal or PAW'S Journal regarding these matters.

~Cryz

sir sorry spam.
haha.

eto address ko.

ung dati pa rin cryz. sa san agustine st. villa tech palatiw pasig city.

Posts : 103 Join date : 2009-07-24 Age : 31

Guys kung nakakalimutan nyo na ang group na to ay tungkol sa what is EMO?ang naaalala ko wala sa goal ng pesos ang mga biggie projects like nung mga hindi maasahang mangyayari at tsaka wala tyo sa business talks okay?ang suggest ko lang wag na muna sana maningil ng pera na wala kayong ipinapakitang examples ng product na gusto nyo i share or makakabuti sa member etc.

Cryz- Goodluck sa aug.22 sana makuha mo lahat ng attention ng mga pupunta dun sa venue na yun.Alam ko mahirap magsalita sa harap ng madaming tao lalo na kapag walang nakikinig sayo XD. At tsaka tanggalin nyo na yung after EB talks na yan hehe walang nakakadulot na maganda ang pagiging lasinggero ng mga members at mga adik sa yosi alalahanin sana natin na kpag sumali ka sa isang group dadalhin mo ang pangalan ng gruop at maging proud ka kasi nakasali ka sa group na yun.Hindi yung sisirain mo ang reputation ng group na sinalihan mo sana ma gets nyo yung sinulat ko dito.

May tanong po ako sa inyong lahat, gusto ko sagutin nyo po dito. bakit nga ba kumokonti ang member ng pesos??

Subject: Re: BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE. Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:26 pm

Michico wrote:: asan na a yan ID na yan?

hindi ba naningil na ng pera jan? at andaming dahilan kesho na ospital sha, kesho naiwanan, kesho ganito ganyan

hindi pa ba kayo nag sasawa?

TO MAKE AN ID:

you need a layoud.. preferably about 3inches width to 2.5height

you need a good graphic designer

you need a PVC ID printing machine
(mapapamahal ka sa labas)

the machine will cost around 6-7k ..
with 10 sheets i think. so each sheets will cost less 20pesos lang.

so.. the problem is.. WAG KAYONG MANINGIL. ng walang mapapala.

DAPAT MAY MAG PRISINTA. unang gumawa ng akshon ng walang hawak o paniningil.. ABONOHAN in short.
saka ibenta

ASAN NA YANG ID NA YAN MR. PAWS
and MS. BARBIE

plus: you cannot issue an OFFICIAL RECEIPT if hindi registered sa BIR
and kung counter receipt lang yan.. still it is invalid. d mo pwde i habol o kasuhan
(kakasuhan mo pa ba ung 50pesos?)

tawag eh.. DELICADESA. sana naman may HIYA naman .

(ayoko na ng arguement gusto ko lang malaman ng lahat ang mga hinding magandang nangyayari)

kung nagastos man yung pera
wala na kaming paki don dahil tapos na yung issue na yun
dont bring it up.

we are here to start over
make new plans, new ideas
kaya nga gumawa ng bagong forum diba??

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