What You People Should Do

...and by that title, I didn't mean it to be obligatory. It's for people who wants to grow up, be part of something real and be taken out of your Disneyland called PESOS.

Someone from here actually asked me to post something...again. After almost 2 years of not being an active member.
*yes you little chipmunks...I'm a pioneer, a former admin and now a god (thank you Michico for turning me into a god, but sorry I don't believe in one.)*

Let me begin with: What are you guys actually aiming for? what is this site's goal?

This has been a question since November of 2006. The birth month of PES or Philippine Emo Scene.
Unfortunately, nobody could really give a good answer. Nobody even knew what the group/site/forum was created for. Was it for the discussion of "emo"? "emo scene"? "emo bands"?

But did we really know what those were? To be honest, back then WE/I didn't. Luckily, some aliens, whom now I'm friends with...who're most commonly known as "ELITISTS" came to the Friendster group. They brought enlightenment, the real facts. Some were really rude, which was an effective way of setting the facts straight. (I'm not really close with that guy though. You call this bashing by the way.)

I for one, embraced what they told me. They gave me links to other sites to check out and find out about this scene for myself. Talked to people here and there. Listened to different REAL EMO and REAL SCREAMO bands so I could tell the difference between a EUROPEAN SOUNDING SCREAMO, AMERICAN SOUNDING SCREAMO and CANADIAN SOUNDING SCREAMO not to mention the flourishing ASIAN SCREAMO(that, excluding Envy, those fvckers sound post-rock screamo.)



You guys want me to keep going? Yea, I thought so too.



What I got just didn't cut it. I loved the genre, if it were a woman, I'd marry it. So I wanted more, I asked these people what to do and they told me; "form an emo band!". So, I tried, hell we we're so good, we we're playing Silverstein in no time. NOT.

It wasn't easy. This music is not for everyone. Sure, maybe some of you guys can play the guitar like Paul Gilbert or Jimmy Page or whoever virtuoso, but this music isn't also about how awesome you play the guitar or your band.

I'll quote a known skramz band now:

"Punk rock is fvcking self expression. Punk rock is creating something outside of main stream society to keep us sane. If you don't fvcking believe in that, then I'm sorry, but this is what this is to me, and this is all I have. So thank you for being a part of this."

...and that my friends is what I also believe in.

Forming an emo/skramz band wasn't easy, especially when you really don't know anyone who shares the same interests as you. If you say "lets form an emo band" to someone they'd automatically say "tapos maglalas-las tayo? wag na lang." Get my point?

I said, I've been out of this site for almost 2 years. What do you think was I doing all these time? I'll tell you. I was busy with my studies. Busy being part of DIY PUNK/HARDCORE SHOWS WITH REAL PUNK/CRUST/HARDCORE KIDS AND HARDCORE DANCING.

I went out of the internet. I didn't completely leave. Of course. I just stopped wallowing in this hell hole and thought I might go out and meet real people. BY MEET REAL PEOPLE I DON'T MEAN USELESS FVCKING EB's.

So, what do you guys do? This group helped out a few to be honest. A FEW. That's not enough. You think you're worthy to put "EMO SCENE" in this group's name? Well fvck you for dragging our beloved music scene to this cesspool! You want to preserve it you say? Do something. Learn about the real thing. Listen to the real thing. Do something for the real thing. It's like a drug. You take the wrong pill, you die along with it.

So for slowpokes who read the whole thing and still doesn't get it, I'll list the whole point of my post for you. Fvcking slowpoke.:

1. Cut your scene hair. You look fvcking stupid. Plus, you can't beat my scene hair @ssh*le.
2. If you want this genre. Learn to love it. You want to be "in"? Sorry, nobody is "in". There is no "emo scene"...
3. ...there however is, a PUNK/HARDCORE scene here from QC to DOWN SOUTH. If you want to be part of it. lrn2growup and get out of your house.
4. If you like this music, one way of preserving it, is support your local DIY Shows and Collectives...or.
5. ...form a band. A REAL EMO BAND. All you have to do is PLAY THE GUITAR with OCTAVE CHORDS, do some fast strumming and slides ta da! Orchid sounding songs!
6. Talk to people who are in the scene. Find out for yourself. You guys could talk to me if you dare. Just kidding. Anytime.


So there you have it. I expect some "fvck you back" posts.
Though,I hope this would mean something to some of you guys. Especially my lil brother thurr! *points finger at Gerson* .youisafag.

----

For those of you who are wondering about me having a band...well, I'm in a few bands:

Birds in Formation - Skramz band based in Mandaluyong, me on guitar. Sounds like a mix of the bands A Love Lost But Not Forgotten and Raein.

Planet Shh - A duo, grindcore band based in Mandaluyong me on guitar. Sounds like, Magrudergrind and Shitstorm and a little bit of everything.

Au Revoir - Skramz band from...I don't really know for sure, we come from different places. Me on bass (Sessionist as of the moment, they kicked me out for not attending jams, pwahaha.)

plus some other bands in different genres (you can check it out in my friendster account, though we're not friends right? too bad.) I'm also part of PKi! Commune and Asterisk Collective. So yeah. What a fvcking show off I am. KIDDING!



-Killforskramz (BIF/PSHH)

eto na yung GOALS at AIMS ng forum na to!

It's been awhile Raffy...

You wicked Sumabitch... What's been up man?

anyways.

Suggestion.

Before you start doing the "AIMS" and "GOALS" start with yourselves guys.

Inaaway na nila kami dahil kami nalang ang natirang Pioneers tapos wala kaming magawa pra maayos ang ung conflicts.
Prove them wrong guys.

I didn't post this for you guys to make it your basis for this site or as aim or goal.

I'm just trying to guide you to something better and make you realize that what you're doing isn't really helping the scene.

Ask yourselves: "I know the facts about emo/hardcore/punk/metal...now what?"

So...now what? It's your choice. Either you continue doing what you're doing or try to do what me and the others did.

Knowing your abc's is useless unless you know how to piece them together right?

raffy !!
ur damn back .,
thanks for guiding us .. n_n

Guiding someone who doesnt want to be guided is useless anyway right?

Right on Raff.

That's what i called you for.

Anyways, lets talk.

An FS GROUP < thats the right term

and oh.. btw .. about ur BANAT :]] please reply ms. barbie :] don't snob it
https://pesos.forumotion.net/announcements-f2/before-you-make-a-move-t294-30.htm#7881

Chico. she's got the right term. xd

A FS Group> A friendster Group

anyways, just correctin' man. haha. gotta blast.

^I think we found the answer we're looking for.

killforskramz wrote:

Ask yourselves: "I know the facts about emo/hardcore/punk/metal...now what?"

So...now what? It's your choice. Either you continue doing what you're doing or try to do what me and the others did.

^
lurking+posting+partying is not enough in this kinda group. ya know what i mean?

pangalan pa lang bigatin na. let's just show we deserve the name.

that goes for me too. madami pa akong kakaining bigas. xD

plus we could just stop telling hard headed people what to do with their lives. ugh, i just realized that if they don't want to help out this group, there's no point in spoon feeding them. again. for the nth time.

Aian wrote:

^I think we found the answer we're looking for.

killforskramz wrote:

Ask yourselves: "I know the facts about emo/hardcore/punk/metal...now what?"

So...now what? It's your choice. Either you continue doing what you're doing or try to do what me and the others did.

^
lurking+posting+partying is not enough in this kinda group. ya know what i mean?

pangalan pa lang bigatin na. let's just show we deserve the name.

that goes for me too. madami pa akong kakaining bigas. xD

plus we could just stop telling hard headed people what to do with their lives. ugh, i just realized that if they don't want to help out this group, there's no point in spoon feeding them. again. for the nth time.

I guess it's:

"pangalan pa lang kontradikting na."

---

In a "scene" there is no lurking, posting or partying...the hardcore kids from different hardcore scenes are connected through a website too...but we don't do this as much as PESOS does...we post show schedules more...we talk about the society and socio-political/socio-economical awareness...we have fun...we meet...and it's a lot more fun than this.

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

Cryzler wrote:

Chico. she's got the right term. xd

A FS Group> A friendster Group

anyways, just correctin' man. haha. gotta blast.

she spelled it as FS

pronounced by : EFF ESS.

so .. nag start sha sa E

mann lol

barbieXiaO wrote:

mejo bago pa ako sa scene in i've learn a lot of genres
from metal at yon iba2 png klase ng metal *m2m* pti
grindcore,hardcore,alternative atbp...am still learning
and for the topic noh ggawin ko???...



BE OPEN MiNDED and SUPPORT the SCENE...
hindi lang ako pumupunta sa mga events or
gigs for nothing..If you're in a gig you'll met a lot
of bands...They have different ideas about what they're
music is about and how they made it to the scene so
that keeps me motivated to learn more and share
what I know to people...

I get your point, but the thing is..are the shows you go to really in the "scene" or just a production who asks bands for money to be able to play?

the Hardcore/punk and metal scene here in our country gravely considers the DIY ethic..and the "no pay to play" idea..Last August 16, the collective and I setup a show, we invited bands we had 13 in the venue...none of them paid to be able to play...the money we used to pay for the venue and amps we borrowed came from the entrance fee of SIXTY PESOS...but of course 60 pesos wasnt enough to cover everything..so we had to collect money from within the collective..FROM OUR OWN POCKETS..not your bands...

so fuck your muddslide...and the likes...they dont do anything for the scene...plus the bands there...for fucking show.

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

well said sir ..

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

okay. stand corrected .
so mind if i ask why
youre here ?
are u back for good ?
just curious .

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

okay. stand corrected .
so mind if i ask why
youre here ?
are u back for good ?
just curious .

I'm not quite sure if I'll be staying. If staying gets me any...I mean even small results..I might try to stay a bit longer.
I'm also curious, your pic looks familiar.

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

okay. stand corrected .
so mind if i ask why
youre here ?
are u back for good ?
just curious .

I'm not quite sure if I'll be staying. If staying gets me any...I mean even small results..I might try to stay a bit longer.
I'm also curious, your pic looks familiar.

oh well i hope u'll stay,
i know we could learn so much from you.
by the way, its me vylet .
just cutting it short to 'vaii'
dont know if you still remember.

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

okay. stand corrected .
so mind if i ask why
youre here ?
are u back for good ?
just curious .

I'm not quite sure if I'll be staying. If staying gets me any...I mean even small results..I might try to stay a bit longer.
I'm also curious, your pic looks familiar.

oh well i hope u'll stay,
i know we could learn so much from you.
by the way, its me vylet .
just cutting it short to 'vaii'
dont know if you still remember.

I hope for better results...
Well have a show on September (tentative), October and November.
This would be one step into being into a real scene.

I know a lot of Vylet from PESOS..or iisang tao lang ba ang Vylet dito at marami lang account?
PICS FOR JUSTICE. haha.

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

killforskramz wrote:

v a i i wrote:

welcome (back?) raffy .
i dont feel like barking . lol anyways, hope this one
could bring the group's sane back .
* il vote to put this on the sticky thread or on the must read thread .

was that SANITY you were trying to say?
the people here are sane..but theyre not in a proper scene..

-killforskramz

okay. stand corrected .
so mind if i ask why
youre here ?
are u back for good ?
just curious .

I'm not quite sure if I'll be staying. If staying gets me any...I mean even small results..I might try to stay a bit longer.
I'm also curious, your pic looks familiar.

oh well i hope u'll stay,
i know we could learn so much from you.
by the way, its me vylet .
just cutting it short to 'vaii'
dont know if you still remember.

I hope for better results...
Well have a show on September (tentative), October and November.
This would be one step into being into a real scene.

I know a lot of Vylet from PESOS..or iisang tao lang ba ang Vylet dito at marami lang account?
PICS FOR JUSTICE. haha.

nice . we'll be looking
forward for that then .
hope u'll be patient enough to baby sit . haha
aw . as far as i know im the first vylet who joined pesos group. i dont know with
some 'vylets ', actually
thats the reason ive changed the nick .

welcome raffy dear, i'll make it a point i'll be there, thanks for the help